Pike U-Turn Ramp: Another Wrong Turn?

According to this story in today's Globe, the relatively new u-turn ramp in Allston that allows Mass Pike drivers heading west to reverse direction and drive into downtown "has averaged barely 70 authorized daily users". But this story from last November reported that, when the ramp was restricted to commercial vehicles police "wrote 986 citations there Oct. 16-26". These numbers don't add up. If almost 100 people a day were using the ramp illegally, how could the total use be 70 vehicles?

The larger point of the story remains valid - this $1.6 million dollar project so far seems to be far from the "significant asset for our tourism and visitor industry" carrying 1,500 vehicles a day that the business community predicted.

With major transportation problems here in A/B, the "need to study at least twice to spend wisely once" and try to understand why previous estimate have been right or wrong are ideas to remember.

25 comments:

  1. Tonye2062:55 PM

    I hate that thing, they gave me a citation too and I'm now fighting it. You used to be able to turn around without going through the toll and for free, now they just use that lane to ticket people. It takes a picture of your car as you go through. Bastards!

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    1. Anonymous2:44 PM

      I mistakenly skipped out on a toll in NH on way to Ski, the violation fee was $1 and I actually went through a toll. The crooks at MassDOT charged a violation fee of $50 and i took the u-turn to go back to Boston because I took a wrong turn coming out of Southie and THAT IS THE FIRST CHANCE TO TURN AROUND!!! MOVING to NH!!!

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  2. Anonymous2:28 PM

    I found out the hard way today, too! What is up with that? Is it legal to provide a U turn that isn't legal to use???

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  3. Anonymous9:01 PM

    There's the sign one mile before the toll that says the U-turn is there with no restrictions listed. Just before the toll there's the U-turn on the left with no restrictions listed. Not even a no u-turn sign.

    I was prepared to pay the toll despite the fact that my getting on the turnpike west was a mistake. I was plesantly surprised to see the U-turn option without restrictions. I was not plesant after I got the ticket

    Ticket? Entrapment. They'll be getting more than an appeal from me.

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  4. Anonymous10:31 AM

    I experienced the same thing as Anonymous March 2, 2010 posting. I am definitely
    appealing this.

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  5. Anonymous6:06 PM

    your looking for a place to park. a cop waves you on to a parking area . you park to the place he has pointed to . as you get out of the car the cop moves away from the front of a sign that is now revealed. it reads no parking . he then hands you a ticket for illegally parking. can anybody tell me the difference between that scenario and getting fined for alleged illegal u turn [or whatever the hell it is]near that toll booth ? this goes beyond entrapment. this is pure unadulterated fraud and should be looked at as a criminal offense perpetrated by the mass. turnpike authority

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  6. Anonymous11:30 AM

    This is ridiculous, the way they did this U turn is to trap people. This should be illegal.
    Everybody who got fine by Mass turnpike authority should fight in court and get your money back.
    There is no sign saying that U turn is not for everybody, since the sign it is not specify, we should be allowed not to pay this crap.

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  7. Anonymous9:27 AM

    There are no Exits from Downtown Boston until the Allston/Brighton toll...that U-turn is the only alternative for drivers. someone needs to get fired!!!

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  8. Anonymous7:21 PM

    received my citation in the mail today for this??????????? Has anyone won an appeal?

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    1. Anonymous7:25 PM

      I have appealed twice and won... so-to-speak. I did not have to pay to $50 but had to pay the toll amount plus and administrative fee totaling $7.50.

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  9. Anonymous7:27 AM

    I'm from out of state and when I realized that I was going west instead of east, I was relieved to see the U-turn. How nice! How convenient! What great planning! I took the U-turn back to Boston and never saw anything about its being illegal or that I'd have to go through a toll. This is reprehensible. When I received the citation in the mail I thought I'd pay it to save time and trouble. After thinking about it, though, I've decided to come back from out of state and appeal this. I'd like to know what creep came up with this. Welcome to Massachusetts!
    BTW, I received the citation EIGHT MONTHS after the alleged infraction. Is this because there are so many citations going out to unsuspecting motorists that they have a huge backlog? C'mon, guys, let's all appeal. This is just plain WRONG.

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    1. Anonymous10:48 AM

      I don't know when you posted your comment, because this website only shows the time of day it was poster, but I am with you. I am also from out of state and just received the pl99 uturn citation 11 months after the "violation" date. I know for sure that i didnt make any illegal u-turns or skip tolls. They also dont even specify exactly what I did wrong.

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  10. Anonymous2:54 AM

    I just now received a citation for a pl99 U-turn. Mind you it was 7 months after being in Boston. I know without a doubt that I did not turn around in any area marked that it was restricted to certain vehicles. The only time I turned around which I have to assume is what this is for is when I got off the hwy just prior to a toll booth when I realized I was going the wrong way. There were no signs stating that it was for certain vehicles. This is a shame on the State of Massachussets!! How do you not properly place signage and then fine out of state travelers for not knowing that a exit is not for public usage. This is ridiculous!

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  11. Anonymous1:42 PM

    I just received the same violation for months after i went to Boston. I paid because i do not have the free time to go to Boston for court. I am not happy that massdot seems to think this is ok.

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  12. Anonymous2:44 PM

    I just received the same PL99 U-Turn on 7/3/13 for a trip to Boston on April 23, 2013. Like the others I saw a sign for a U-turn to 90 East and took it but i did not see any signs stating a Toll or E-ZPASS only so I took this U-Turn as well. Lucky me to have such a wonderful experience on the Mass Pike. This is a great revenue generator for Boston. I will be sure to send a letter to the Governor of Connecticut who is always looking for ways to raise revenues. Why not create an illegal U-turn in Connecticut but post a sign and say its OK for out of state drivers to use. They won't want to come back to the State to pay a $50 fine its would cost more for the gas and toll.

    What a Joke!

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  13. Anonymous2:37 PM

    I got the fine as well, needed to make a U turn because coming out of the airport the signage is confusing, my intended route was the south east expressway and of course they don't call it that anymore so after missing the exit ended up on the Mass pike. Damn. I want you all to know I did not run the toll and paid the fare out of the tunnel from the airport. It was annoying to have miss read the signs ending up on the Mass pike.

    I don't travel Boston often, unfamiliar with Ezpass and was traveling at the speed of light along with the other traffic and my daughter and I saw a U Turn sign. I am a optimistic and trusting person and took the sign's big letters "U Turn to Boston" as a sign from God and at its face value or better was thinking wasn't it thoughtful of the turnpike authority to put a U turn for those of us who get lost.

    Now that I have this nifty "Toll Violation Notice" it occurred to me that those that receive the benefit of using the Mass pike to reach a destination should pay but if you reverse direction ending up at your beginning point there was no value received so why the charge? Its not like your getting something and not paying. Do you all remember "Alice's Restaurant". Please, be a good citizen and appeals the violation, the cost of the appeals will much greater to process that the $50 buck fine.

    I am appealing and the above will be what is written on the form.

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  14. Anonymous4:14 AM

    I got the ticket too. Thanks for the discussion. I'm more encouraged to appeal.

    FYI, you can use google street view to see what's there on the u-turn. Search for "hookerr-sorrento playground boston" in Google Maps and you will see the glorious U-turn on I-90. There was "EZ-pass" written on the U-Turn sign but it didn't clearly mean that you have to pay here. 1 mile back there was another U-Turn sign. NO warning for toll or EZ-pass on the sign!

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  15. Anonymous10:15 PM

    Has anyone been successful appealing because we just got a citation in the mail today for doing this U-turn one year ago.

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  16. Anonymous5:42 PM

    I got a ticket for doing this turn around and then another one a few mintes later for same thing. I put it was my first offense and descibe about the lack of signs and direction and the appeal was granted and reduced to 7.50 per offence because of toll. it was better than 105.00 for the two. hope this helps

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  17. Anonymous5:45 PM

    Also I did this appeal on line and got a responce right away with the appeal granted. Do not send any money. Just follow directions and make it breif. Hope this helps

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    1. Not sure how you appealed online, the letter I received says no online appeals. If you remember could you post that information, thanks!

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  18. I just got a notice of this violation that they claim occurred almost a year and a half ago! I was in the Boston area around that time for only the second time in my life. IF, it is for what I think it might be, I was trying desperately not to get lost on their miserable road system, not trying to dodge a measly toll. I'll appeal, if for no other reason than to cost them the time to deal with me. What I'd like to do is pass on this fine to the morons that design the roads and signage (or lack there of) in that miserable to navigate town.

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  19. Anonymous5:23 PM

    Please refer to #5 under "Values," in the "Mission and Values" statement of the Massachusetts Department of Transportation. Use link below.

    http://www.massdot.state.ma.us/AboutUs.aspx

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  20. Anonymous3:51 PM

    I got the same thing, problem is it's not me. They said I made the u-Turn at 10:46 in the am when Ummm yeah I'm in work at 8am in RHODE ISLAND!... Defiantely Fighting!!!!!

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  21. Anonymous8:06 AM

    I just received a letter stating that I also didn't pay a toll and the location of violation is PL99 U-turn. Does anyone know where that is? I know I paid the toll coming from the airport, I got lost and got back on the right road after talking with the toll attendant who gave me directions. No other toll involved. I came to a split in the road, tolls on the right, another road on the left, I toll that one. is that the toll evasion? I don't want to have to go back to Mass to fight this as it would cost me more but I do not want to pay for something I didn't do. Any advice from anyone else who had the same problem?

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